Stormy Daniels Would Do It Again Trump Yes
Editor's Notation: The story was originally published on March 25, 2018.
A week and a one-half before the 2016 ballot, Donald Trump'due south personal attorney paid a porn star named Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about her declared human relationship with the Republican candidate for president. Today, that arrangement is well on its fashion to becoming the about talked-nigh "hush understanding" in history, with potential legal and political implications for the president. Through his spokesman, Mr. Trump has denied having an thing with Stormy Daniels, and his lawyers are now threatening her with financial ruin, maxim she has to pay $one million every time she violates her agreement to stay silent. But that didn't end her from coming on sixty Minutes.
Full Stormy Daniels interview transcript below:
Anderson Cooper: For sitting hither talking to me today y'all could be fined a 1000000 dollars. I mean, aren't you taking a big risk?
Stormy Daniels: I am.
Anderson Cooper: I guess I'm not 100% sure on why you're doing this.
Stormy Daniels: Because it was very important to me to be able to defend myself.
Anderson Cooper: Is part of talking west-- wanting to set up the record straight?
Stormy Daniels: 100%.
Anderson Cooper: Why does the record need to exist set straight?
Stormy Daniels: Considering people are just saying whatever they wanted to say about me, I was perfectly fine saying zippo at all, but I'm non okay with beingness fabricated out to exist a liar, or people thinking that I did this for money and people are like, "Oh, you're an opportunist. You're taking reward of this. Yes, I'm getting more job offers now, only tell me one person who would plough down a chore offering making more than than they've been making, doing the aforementioned matter that they've always done?
Anderson Cooper: A lotta people are using you lot for a lotta different agendas.
Stormy Daniels: They're trying to. Like, oh, you know, Stormy Daniels comes out #MeToo. This is not a 'Me Too.' I was not a victim. I've never said I was a victim. I retrieve trying to use me to-- to further someone else'southward agenda, does horrible damage to people who are true victims.
Stormy Daniels' real name is Stephanie Clifford. She's 39 years sometime, from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and has been acting in, directing, and writing adult films for about 20 years. She was ane of the most popular actresses in the developed industry when she was introduced to Mr. Trump at a celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe in July, 2006. She says he invited her to dinner, and she met him at his hotel suite.
Anderson Cooper: How was the conversation?
Stormy Daniels: Ummm (LAUGH) it started off-- all about him merely talking almost himself. And he's like-- "Have you seen my new magazine?"
Anderson Cooper: He was showing yous his own picture on the cover of a magazine.
Stormy Daniels: Correct, right. And so I was like, "Does this-- does this unremarkably work for you?" And he looked very taken-- taken back, like, he didn't actually understand what I was maxim. Like, I was, "does, merely, you know, talking almost yourself normally work?" And I was like, "Someone should take that magazine and spank you with it." (LAUGH) And I'll never forget the look on his confront. He was similar--
Anderson Cooper: What-- what was his look?
Stormy Daniels: Just, I don't think anyone's ever spoken to him like that, peculiarly, you lot know, a young woman who looked like me. And I said, you know, "Give me that," and I just remember him going, "You wouldn't." "Mitt it over." And-- so he did, and I was like, "plow around, drop 'em."
Anderson Cooper: You-- you lot told Donald Trump to turn effectually and take off his pants.
Stormy Daniels: Yeah.
Anderson Cooper: And did he?
Stormy Daniels: Yes. And so he turned around and pulled his pants down a little -- you know had underwear on and stuff and I merely gave him a couple swats.
Anderson Cooper: This was done in a joking manner.
Stormy Daniels: Yes. And-- from that moment on, he was a completely different person.
Anderson Cooper: How and so?
Stormy Daniels: He quit talking about himself and he asked me things and I asked him things and it just became like more appropriate.
Anderson Cooper: It became more comfy.
Stormy Daniels: Yeah. He was similar, "Wow, you-- you are special. You remind me of my daughter." You know-- he was like, "Y'all're smart and beautiful, and a woman to be reckoned with, and I like you. I like you lot."
Anderson Cooper: At this point was he doing The Apprentice?
Stormy Daniels: Aye. And he goes, "Got an idea, honeybunch. Would you always consider going on and-- and being a contestant?" And I laughed and-- and said, "NBC's never gonna let, you lot know, an adult pic star be on." It's, yous know, he goes, "No, no," he goes, "That's why I want y'all. You're gonna shock a lotta people, you're smart and they won't know what to wait"
Anderson Cooper: Did you remember he was serious, or did you think he was kind of dangling to become you to wanna be involved him?
Stormy Daniels: Both.
Anderson Cooper: Melania Trump had recently given birth to-- to a son, just a few months earlier. Did that-- did he mention his wife or child at all in this?
Stormy Daniels: I asked. And he brushed it aside, said, "Oh yeah, aye, yous know, don't worry about that. We don't fifty-fifty-- we have separate rooms and stuff."
Anderson Cooper: Did yous two go out for dinner that night?
Stormy Daniels: No.
Anderson Cooper: Y'all had dinner in the room?
Stormy Daniels: Yes.
Anderson Cooper: What happened side by side?
Stormy Daniels: I asked him if I could use his restroom and he said, "Yes, y'all know, information technology's through those-- through the sleeping room, you'll encounter it." So I-- I excused myself and I went to the-- the restroom. You know, I was in there for a footling bit and came out and he was sitting, you know, on the border of the bed when I walked out, perched.
Anderson Cooper: And when you saw that, what went through your mind?
Stormy Daniels: I realized exactly what I'd gotten myself into. And I was like, "Ugh, here nosotros get." (LAUGH) And I just felt like possibly-- (LAUGH) it was sort of-- I had it coming for making a bad determination for going to someone's room alone and I just heard the vox in my head, "well, you put yourself in a bad situation and bad things happen, so you deserve this."
Anderson Cooper: And you had sexual activity with him.
Stormy Daniels: Yes.
Anderson Cooper: You were 27, he was 60. Were y'all physically attracted to him?
Stormy Daniels: No.
Anderson Cooper: Non at all?
Stormy Daniels: No.
Anderson Cooper: Did you want to have sex with him?
Stormy Daniels: No. Merely I didn't-- I didn't say no. I'yard not a victim, I'm not--
Anderson Cooper: It was entirely consensual.
Stormy Daniels: Oh, aye, yep.
Anderson Cooper: You lot work in an industry where condom use is-- is an issue. Did-- did he use a condom?
Stormy Daniels: No.
Anderson Cooper: Did you enquire him to?
Stormy Daniels: No. I honestly didn't say anything.
Anderson Cooper: After you had sex, what happened?
Stormy Daniels: He said that it was bang-up, he had-- a peachy evening, and it was nada like he expected, that I really surprised him, that a lotta people must underestimate me-- that he hoped that I would be willing to run into him over again and that we would hash out the things we had talked nigh before in the evening.
Anderson Cooper: Being on The Apprentice.
Stormy Daniels: Right.
Daniels says she and Mr. Trump stayed in touch. She says he invited her to a Trump Vodka launch party in California, likewise every bit to his role in Trump Tower in New York.
Anderson Cooper: And so he definitely wanted to continue to see y'all.
Stormy Daniels: Oh, for sure. Aye.
Stormy Daniels: And this was not a hole-and-corner. He never asked me not to tell anyone. He called several times when I was in front of many people and I would be like, "Oh my God, he'south calling." They were like, "Close up, the Donald?" And I'd put him on speakerphone, and he wanted to know what I was up to and, "When can we get together again? I simply wanted to give you a quick update, we had a meeting, information technology went great. There's-- it'south gonna exist spectacular, they're totally into the thought," and I was similar mhmm that function I never believed.
Anderson Cooper: Did you still get the sense that he was kind of dangling information technology in front of you lot--
Stormy Daniels: Oh, for certain, oh aye.
Anderson Cooper: To keep you lot interested, to keep you coming back.
Stormy Daniels: Of course, of course. I mean, I'm non blind. But at the same fourth dimension, possibly information technology'll work out, you know?
Anderson Cooper: Did you view it equally this is a potential opportunity. "I'g gonna see where it goes?"
Stormy Daniels: I thought of information technology as a business bargain.
"A guy walked upwards on me and said to me, 'Get out Trump alone. Forget the story.'"
In July 2007 -- a yr later on they met -- Daniels says Mr. Trump asked to meet with her privately at his bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles to discuss a evolution regarding her possible advent on Glory Amateur.
Stormy Daniels: I think arriving, and he was watching Shark Week. He made me sit down and watch an unabridged documentary about shark attacks.
Anderson Cooper: It wasn't at that indicate a concern meeting, it was only watching Shark Week.
Stormy Daniels: Yeah.
Anderson Cooper: Did you have sex with him again?
Stormy Daniels: No.
Anderson Cooper: Did he want to?
Stormy Daniels: Yes.
Anderson Cooper: How do you know he wanted to?
Stormy Daniels: Because he came and sat adjacent to me and, you know, touched my hair, and put his hand on my leg, and r-- referenced dorsum to how great it was the final time.
Anderson Cooper: How did y'all get out of it?
Stormy Daniels: Well, I'd been there for, like, 4 hours. And so I then was like, "Well, before, you know, can we talk nearly what's the development?" And he was similar, "I'thousand almost there. I'll have an respond for you side by side calendar week." And I was like, "Okay, cool. Well-- I guess call me next calendar week." And I only took my bag and left.
According to Daniels, Mr. Trump called her the following month to say he'd not been able to get her a spot on Celebrity Apprentice. She says they never met again and only had sex in that starting time meeting in 2006. In May 2011, Daniels agreed to tell her story to a sis publication of In Touch magazine for $15,000. Two former employees of the magazine told us the story never ran because after the magazine chosen Mr. Trump seeking comment, his chaser Michael Cohen threatened to sue. Daniels says she was never paid, and says a few weeks later, she was threatened by a man who approached her in Las Vegas.
Stormy Daniels: I was in a parking lot, going to a fettle form with my baby daughter. T-- taking, you know, the seats facing backwards in the backseat, diaper handbag, you know, gettin' all the stuff out. And a guy walked upwards on me and said to me, "Leave Trump solitary. Forget the story." And then he leaned effectually and looked at my daughter and said, "That'south a beautiful little girl. It'd exist a shame if something happened to her mom." And then he was gone.
Anderson Cooper: Yous took it as a direct threat?
Stormy Daniels: Admittedly.
Stormy Daniels: I was rattled. I recollect going into the conditioning grade. And my hands are shaking so much, I was afraid I was gonna-- drop her.
Anderson Cooper: Did you ever see that person once more?
Stormy Daniels: No. But I-- if I did, I would know it right away.
Anderson Cooper: You'd be able to-- you'd exist able to recognize that person?
Stormy Daniels: 100%. Fifty-fifty now, all these years later. If he walked in this door right at present, I would instantly know.
Anderson Cooper: Did you go to the police force?
Stormy Daniels: No.
Anderson Cooper: Why?
Stormy Daniels: Because I was scared.
When a gossip website reported a few months later on that she'd had an affair with Mr. Trump, Stormy Daniels publically denied it. Five years after, Donald Trump won the Republican nomination for president.
Stormy Daniels: All of a sudden people are reaching out to me again, offering me money. Large amounts of money. Was I tempted? Yes-- I struggle with it. And then I become the call. "I retrieve I take the best deal for y'all."
Anderson Cooper: From your lawyer?
Stormy Daniels: Yep.
The deal was an offer non to tell her story. It came from Mr. Trump's chaser Michael Cohen. In return for signing this not-disclosure understanding, Cohen would pay her $130,000 through a Delaware-based limited liability corporation he had established in mid-Oct 2016 called essential consultants. Daniels says the agreement was appealing because it meant she would receive some coin merely too not take to worry about the effect the revelation of the affair would take on her kid who was now old enough to picket the news. She signed the agreement 11 days earlier the ballot.
Anderson Cooper: Was information technology hush money to stay silent?
Stormy Daniels: Yes. The story was coming out over again. I was concerned for my family and their safety.
Anderson Cooper: I think some people watching this are going to doubt that you entered into this negotiation-- because you lot feared for your condom. They're gonna think y-- that you saw an opportunity.
Stormy Daniels: I recall the fact that I didn't even negotiate, I just quickly said yes to this v-- very, you know, strict contract. And what most people will concord with me extremely low number. It's all the proof I demand.
Anderson Cooper: You feel similar if you had wanted to become public, you could accept gotten paid a lot of money to go public?
Stormy Daniels: Without a doubt. I know for a fact. I believe, without a shadow of a doubt, in my heart, and some people debate that I don't take i of those, simply whatever, that I was doing the right thing. I turned downwardly a large payday multiple times because ane, I didn't wanna kiss and tell and exist labeled all the things that I'm being labeled now. I didn't wanna take away from the legitimate and legal, I'd like to point out, career that I've worked very hard to institute. And near importantly, I did not want my family and my child exposed to all the things that she's being exposed to right now. Because everything that I was afraid of coming out has come out anyway, and estimate what? I don't have a one thousand thousand dollars. (LAUGH) You didn't fifty-fifty purchase me breakfast.
15 months later on she signed the non-disclosure agreement, in January 2018, the Wall Street Journal published this story, quoting anonymous sources, saying that Mr. Trump's attorney Michael Cohen had paid her for her silence. Daniels says she was not the source of the story. Merely in one case it was published, she says she was pressured past her former chaser and former business manager to sign statements that Michael Cohen released publicly, denying she'd had an affair with Mr. Trump.
Anderson Cooper: So y'all signed and released-- a argument that said I am not denying this matter because I was paid in hush money I'1000 denying it because information technology never happened. That'southward a lie?
Stormy Daniels: Yes.
Anderson Cooper: If it was untruthful, why did you sign information technology?
Stormy Daniels: Because they fabricated it sound similar I had no choice.
Anderson Cooper: I hateful, no ane was putting a gun to your head?
Stormy Daniels: Not physical violence, no.
Anderson Cooper: You idea that in that location would exist some sort of legal repercussion if you lot didn't sign it?
Stormy Daniels: Right. As a matter of fact, the exact sentence used was, "They tin can make your life hell in many different ways."
Anderson Cooper: They being…
Stormy Daniels: I'1000 not exactly sure who they were. I believe it to exist Michael Cohen.
"The payment of the money just creates an enormous legal mess"
President Trump'southward chaser Michael Cohen has denied ever threatening Stormy Daniels. The payment Cohen made to her is at present the subject of complaints to the Justice Department and the Federal Election Commission, alleging that it was an illegal campaign contribution.
What makes the dispute between Stormy Daniels and the president more than a high-profile tabloid scandal is that her silence was purchased 11 days before the presidential election, which may run afoul of entrada finance laws. The president's long-fourth dimension lawyer Michael Cohen says he used $130,000 of his own coin to pay Stormy Daniels. Cohen has said the money was not a campaign contribution. But Trevor Potter, a former chairman of the Federal Ballot Committee appointed past President George H.Westward. Bush, told us he doesn't agree.
Trevor Potter: The payment of the coin just creates an enormous legal mess for, I think, Trump, for Cohen and anyone else who was involved in this in the entrada.
Anderson Cooper: Are you proverb that tin can be seen every bit a contribution to benefit a campaign?
Trevor Potter: I am. it'southward a $130,000 in-kind contribution by Cohen to the Trump entrada, which is nigh $126,500 above what he'south allowed to give. And if he does this on behalf of his client, the candidate, that is a coordinated, illegal, in-kind contribution by Cohen for the purpose of influencing the election, of benefiting the candidate by keeping this clandestine.
The payment Stormy Daniels received is the subject of complaints past watchdog groups to the Section of Justice and the Federal Election Committee, which Trevor Potter used to be chairman of. He's now president of the non-partisan Campaign Legal Middle, which supports the enforcement of campaign finance laws.
Anderson Cooper: If the president paid Michael Cohen dorsum, is that an in-kind campaign contribution that the president should've then reported?
Trevor Potter: It is. If he was then reimbursed by the president, that doesn't remove the fact that the initial payment violated Cohen's contribution limits. I guess it mitigates it if he's paid back by the candidate because the candidate could take paid for it without limit.
Anderson Cooper: What if the president never reimbursed Michael Cohen?
Trevor Potter: Then he is withal out on the line, having fabricated a illegal in-kind contribution to the campaign.
Anderson Cooper: You lot're saying this is more serious for Michael Cohen if the president did non pay him back?
Trevor Potter: Yep. I call back that'due south correct.
We wanted to speak with Mr. Trump'south attorney Michael Cohen about this, simply he did not answer to our calls and written request for comment. Cohen told The New York Times last month he used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Stormy Daniels and said, "Neither the Trump Arrangement nor the Trump Campaign… reimbursed me for the payment." this past week, Cohen told Vanity Off-white magazine, "What I did defensively for my personal client, and my friend, is what attorneys do for their loftier-profile clients. I would have done it in 2006. I would have done it in 2011. I truly intendance about him and the family -- more simply as an employee and an attorney."
Michael Avenatti: It's laughable. It'due south ludicrous. It's preposterous.
Anderson Cooper: Lawyers don't do that, yous're saying. You-- y'all--
Michael Avenatti: E'er.
Michael Avenatti is Stormy Daniels' attorney. He'due south a Los Angeles trial lawyer who is suing the president in a California courtroom, seeking to have Stormy Daniels' non-disclosure agreement -- or "NDA" -- declared invalid, in part because the president never signed it on the lines provided for his allonym -- "D.D.," David Dennison.
Anderson Cooper: Michael Cohen has said, "Expect, this had zero to exercise with the ballot." He would've made this agreement months earlier.
Michael Avenatti: Then why didn't he? It just slipped his mind? It's but a coincidence that, in the waning days of the campaign, he thought to himself, "Oh, you know, I know I've been thinkin' about this for years. Mayhap now is a proficient fourth dimension to become that NDA executed with Stormy Daniels."
Avenatti disputes the notion that Cohen was working in a purely personal capacity when he arranged the hush coin for Stormy Daniels. He'due south found documents that bear witness Michael Cohen used his Trump Organization email address in setting up the payment. He also says the non-disclosure understanding Stormy Daniels signed in 2016, when she was represented by a dissimilar lawyer, was FedExed to Cohen at his Trump Organization office in Trump Tower in New York.
Michael Avenatti: That is a re-create of the Federal Express confirmation
That is a copy of the Federal Express confirmation
The embrace letter from Daniels' previous attorney also identifies who he thought Michael Cohen was working for.
Michael Avenatti: To Mr. Cohen as executive vice president and special counsel to Donald J. Trump, the Trump Organization, again-- listing the 5th Avenue accost. This idea that there's a separation now between Mr. Cohen, individually, and the Trump System or Mr. Cohen, individually, and Donald Trump, it-- information technology-- information technology's nonsense.
Anderson Cooper: At that place are people who argue that this is much ado nigh nothing, that if this was not a story about, an adult-film actress and the president of the United States, no ane would pay attention.
Michael Avenatti: This is almost the cover-upwards. This is about the extent that Mr. Cohen and the president take gone to intimidate this woman, to silence her, to threaten her, and to put her nether their thumb. It is thuggish behavior from people in power. And it has no identify in American democracy.
Avenatti points to this contempo court filing in which the president'south lawyers claim Daniels is already liable for damages "in excess of $xx 1000000" for unspecified violations of her non-disclosure agreement. And in that article in Vanity Fair this past week, Michael Cohen said that when he wins damages from Stormy Daniels, "I might fifty-fifty take an extended vacation on her dime."
Anderson Cooper: You lot're saying they're tryin' to intimidate her.
Michael Avenatti: In that location's no question. You lot threaten someone-- with a $20 one thousand thousand lawsuit, it's a thuggish tactic. It's no different than what happened in the parking lot in Las Vegas.
Anderson Cooper: People make threats in lawsuits all the time. People, you know, say, "You're gonna have to pay a lot of money when y'all lose this-- this instance."
Michael Avenatti: People don't threaten people with $20 one thousand thousand lawsuits, that they're gonna accept their home and take an extended vacation on the money they receive. People don't conduct themselves similar this. They don't. And they shouldn't.
Anderson Cooper: Stormy Daniels did sign the agreement. She got $130,000. Isn't she welching on a deal?
Michael Avenatti: No, she's non welching on a deal, 'cause there never was a bargain.
Anderson Cooper: But she still took the money.
Michael Avenatti: She took the coin. But the fact of the matter is Mr. Trump never signed the understanding. He was obligated to sign the agreement in order for the agreement to spring into issue.
That's not true, according to Michael Cohen, who has said only his signature was required. What was likewise required under the non-disclosure understanding was for Stormy Daniels to turn over all "video images, still images, email letters, and text messages," she had regarding Mr. Trump.
Anderson Cooper: Did y'all do that?
Stormy Daniels: I can't reply that correct now.
Anderson Cooper: You lot don't want to say one way or the other if you have text letters or other items?
Stormy Daniels: My chaser has recommended that I don't hash out those things.
Anderson Cooper: Yous seem to be proverb that she has some sort of text message, or video, or-- or photographs. Or you could simply be backbiting.
Michael Avenatti: You lot should ask some of the other people in my career when they've bet on me bluffing.
Anderson Cooper: In higher and law school, yous did opposition research for Autonomous political operative Rahm Emanuel. Some people looking at that would say you're politically motivated.
Michael Avenatti: I haven't washed annihilation in politics in over twenty years.
Anderson Cooper: But this is non the usual case you have on. You were a old Democratic operative. And yous're talking well-nigh deposing the president. That sounds political."
Michael Avenatti: No, it sounds righteous.
Anderson Cooper: How so?
Michael Avenatti: Considering my customer is credible. She's tellin' the truth.
Trevor Potter, the former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, says the agency's investigations oft take a long time and usually outcome but in monetary penalties. But there is another scenario that could present a problem for the president: special counsel Robert Mueller's inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 election. In March, the Washington Post reported that the "special counsel has examined episodes involving Michael Cohen," including his efforts to launch a Trump-branded project in Moscow in the fall of 2015 when Mr. Trump was seeking the Republican nomination.
Anderson Cooper: Is there any way that special counsel Robert Mueller could investigate the Stormy Daniels payment?
Trevor Potter: Yeah that'due south the wildcard here.
Anderson Cooper: As a prosecutor, yous wanna get leverage over somebody that y'all could and then use to become them to give you other information on which--
Trevor Potter: Correct.
Anderson Cooper: --you're actually interested in?
Trevor Potter: Correct.
That'southward what special counsel Mueller appears to be doing with Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump's one-time campaign chairman, who faces multiple charges including tax and bank fraud.
Anderson Cooper: Paul Manafort has been charged with crimes that don't take anything to do with Russian federation in some cases.
Trevor Potter: Well, and that certainly preceded the campaign. And so-- clearly, the Justice Section, the deputy attorney general who is ultimately in accuse of this, has adamant that looking at what Manafort did in other contexts-- is relevant to the investigation. And I remember you tin say exactly the aforementioned affair most Cohen. He was-- involved-- indisputably with Trump Organization activities with Russian federation and negotiations with the Russians. Mr. Cohen is in the heart of a place that's of swell interest to the Special Counsel.
Anderson Cooper: Is in that location any recent precedent for p-- prosecuting somebody for an undisclosed entrada contribution?
Trevor Potter: Equally information technology happens, there is. There's sort of a pretty spectacular one.
Quondam senator John Edwards was prosecuted, but never convicted, for payments a supporter and his campaign finance chairman made a year before the 2008 election to a adult female who'd had Edwards' child.
Trevor Potter: I recall the Edwards case is not as strong as the facts we accept and so far in the Trump case.
Anderson Cooper: Why do yous call up the potential case against Cohen or Trump is a stronger case than the Edwards case?
Trevor Potter: The timing of information technology. It wasn't the year before the election. It'southward right in the middle of the run-upwards to Election Solar day. When-- Trump'southward conduct with women was a prime campaign consequence. In fact, it was what anybody was focused on.
White Firm press secretary Sarah Sanders did not respond to our request for comment from the president. But we did receive a letter from Mr. Trump's chaser Charles Harder, who asked that we show on camera and read on air one of the statements Stormy Daniels signed in January, denying reports she'd had an thing with Mr. Trump. It says, in office:
"My involvement with Donald Trump was limited to a few public appearances and nothing more."
Anderson Cooper: If Stormy Daniels denied the affair in 2011, which you say is a lie, denied the matter in early on January 2018, denied the affair in late January of 2018, doesn't that hurt her credibility? I mean, she'due south lying, she's lying, she's lying.
Michael Avenatti: I think there's no question that it calls into question her brownie. I also call up that in that location'southward no question that when the American people have all of the facts and testify into consideration, that they are going to conclude that this adult female is telling the truth. And Anderson, to the extent that Mr. Cohen and the president accept an alternative version of the facts let them come forward and land information technology unequivocally.
Anderson Cooper: But come on. You would non sign statements one, 2, iii times nigh something which you knew to exist a lie.
Michael Avenatti: If the president of the United States' fixer made information technology clear to me, either straight or indirectly, that I needed to sign it, and I was in the position of Stormy Daniels, I might sign those statements.
"I have no reason to lie"
Stormy Daniels: I felt intimidated and s-- honestly bullied. And I didn't know what to practise. So I signed it. Even though I had repeatedly expressed that I wouldn't break the agreement, but I was non comfortable lying.
Anderson Cooper: How exercise nosotros know you're telling the truth?
Stormy Daniels: 'Crusade I have no reason to lie. I'm opening myself upwardly for, you know, possible danger and definitely a whole lot of s***.
Anderson Cooper: But, you know, there is a potential ups-- fiscal upside maybe somebody will want you to write a book. Maybe, you know, y'all tin go on a bigger tour and make more than money--
Stormy Daniels: That's--
Anderson Cooper: --dancing?
Stormy Daniels: That's a lot of ifs. I could also become shunned. I mean, I could automatically be alienating one-half of my fanbase right at this very moment.
Anderson Cooper: Jenna Jameson-- some other well-known-- adult film actress said recently nigh you, "The left looks at her equally a whore and but uses her to try to ignominy the president. The right looks at her like a treacherous rat. It'due south a lose-lose. Should've kept her trap shut."
Stormy Daniels: I retrieve that she has a lotta wisdom in those words.
Anderson Cooper: The president watches sixty Minutes, if he'southward watching tonight, what would you say to him?
Stormy Daniels: He knows I'k telling the truth.
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